Allehluia... = )

Don't agree with you at all. First, who decides, especially when there IS freedom of speech, whether you think our consitutional right is feeble or not, that something someone says is 1 or un1.. or biased? It's all opinion, and there's plenty of room for that. The point of the banner is not to bully anyone else but to present another point of view, especially on public tax-payer funded property where christian artifacts could be considered as government establishing religion. I can't imagine why anyone would have an issue with plenty of points of view on public property, unless it's only permissible to have a religious display that many do not share the beliefs of. I noticed that there was a Jewish menorah on the property in a previous year and a christian wanted the nativity scene as well. Good for him, but you can't only have one faith or idea represented...or you must have none.

I'm always a little amused at the seeming persecution complex of some christians who believe that others are out to get them, especially when some christians who founded this country, including Roger Williams, believed in separation of church and state.

Merry secular christmas to you, too.

Just don't put up the nativity scene, if the birth of our savior Jesus Christ is so offensive to you.

Jason-as we noted here before, the first person to want to put up a religious display was Jewish, then followed by a Christian. This year there isn't a Menorah, but in order for goverment not to establish religion, it pretty much has to allow NO religious displays and only secular ones OR do what it's doing now by allowing the FFR display.

Incidentally, Jesus is only *our* savior for those who are Christian. But Chrisitanity isn't the only religion (or non-religion) in the world

"We AMERICANS have had enough, and we are not going to sit by and take it anymore!"

^ i took this from someone's message. Learn your history, who were the first Americans? They were Puritans. Do you know what a Puritan is? It is a religious person. They came to America because they could not celebrate their relgion freely in Europe. Our country was founded on religion and to say that an 'American' has had enough, sounds very stupid.

Indians were there when the Puritans arrived, and others were before that. Therefore,your entire argument about the first Americans being Puritans is incorrect. You clearly also do not understand the issues involved in a religious group coming to America to freely exercise religion and the problems involved in the mingling of church and state. You have to remember that the reason they couldn't worship as they pleased was because of the comingling of religion and government, in, for example, the Catholic Church, or the Church of England. In fact, Roger Williams, with the first Baptist colony, left the Puritans because he objected to their own rigidity and his colony had complete separation of church and state.

Overall, it is not correct to say that this country was founded on religion using the Puritans as an example. The Puritans come to this country between 1620 and 1630. The mercantile company, Hudson, had already been exploring the area up in New York (New Amsterdam) and there were Dutch colonies there between 1609 and 1617-theirs was a commercial interest in the fur trade. And, at the same time, although Jamestown was a British colony, it was founded in roughly 1607 but, again, with mercantile interests.

Regardless of the diversity of the people who were either already here or who arrived here as immigrants, the principle of our country as created to be the United States of America, is that we have freedom of religion. That's because if you're required to practice beliefs or rules of other religions that you don't agree with, you don't really have your own freedom of religion. And the early founders of this country, ala the time of the Revolution, were not only mostly Deists, but believed in keeping religion out of politics.So the point is not whether some were religious or not, it is that this country was not founded as a Christian nation, our government seeks to prevent establishment of any particular religion, and freedom also is for those who choose not to believe in God.