So you don't believe that if people are wrongly accused and their name is dragged through the mud, they should have an opportunity, in court, to clear it? It's easy to say Get Over It.

Hey lshef, why?
Was she convicted of a crime? No.
Was she wronged by the school? Yes.
Are you a perfect example of what has happened to her reputation from these LIES that were spoken by these boys? Yes.
Why would you want someone who was wronged not to have a chance to clear their name? What if it were YOUR name being drug through the mud for this or some other reason? Would you want someone saying 'get over it'?

My comment was apparently one you chose not to print.  I will try and tone it down, but all I see you printing are comments that support your opinion.  Don't you think people need to know both sides?  If you talk to her (and I have many times) she will tell you that she wants to hear everything and anything people are saying. She is even calling people, wanting to know what is being said. She keeps bringing up the fact that the school won't let her volunteer.  She was Kindergarten room Mom and she is at the school for every activity.  Which is great and I think she should be allowed to experience that with her daughter. She is the secretary of the PTO!  How much more can they let her do before she stops saying they won't let her do anything?

Let's face it.........you either believe her or you don't.  I honestly don's know who to believe!  She could clear her name and some people are still not going to believe her. Going on the Dr. Phil show (in my opinion) is not the way to clear your name.  It just brings it all back up again.  As for her children (and I love them both), they are too young to know anything about this, but she chose to tell them what was going on.  It would not be hard at their age to keep it from them.  And I think Dr. Phil would agree with that!

As I mentioned on another post, I am not going to post comments that engage in character assassination, and smear another person. Now that you have toned down your original comments, this has been posted. (Let me reiterate that anyone that wants to get smarmy, call Ogletree by a name or title that she has not been convicted of, etc, cannot do it here, and it's not because I necessarily believe PERSONALLY she is guilty or innocent, but because it's unwarranted smearing). Here's a link to my post today which you can compare and see that I agree with you on several points. And I likewise believe that regardless of how any of this turns out, there will be those who believe her ... or don't and I don't expect an appearance on a talk show will convince all that watch one way or the other.

My earlier post was one of frustration...Maybe "get over it" was a bit much.

My point is this,

I don't care to have an opinion of guilt or innocence.  It does not matter to me.   I believe that the negative publicity and any "talk" about town, was brought on by Joelle herself.  Seeking that is what has made the controversy grow and is in no way helping this womans reputation, (which is what she is after). 

Had this all died 5 years ago, I believe there would be a level of gained respect for her.  That being said, it is now like starting from square one. 

I do not think that this is a good thing for either our town or our school.  Do we want our administrators using their time to negotiate deals with Joelle Ogletree or do we want them to use that time promoting a healthy relationship with our teachers?  Do we want our teachers caught up in a controversy over one of their own, or do we want them to focus their energy on educating our children?  Regardless, it is affecting both!

I am not taking away from the fact that, yes, she feels like she has been wrongfully terminated, but...In a school system, would all parents not want the same to happen again in the same situation.  Maybe not in the same way that it happened here, but I think that we would all want the same result. They are there to protect our children first!  I know, as a parent, if my child was in a classroom where the controversy surrounding the teacher was that of  inappropriate conduct, I would most surely make sure that my child was not subjected to that. 

As far as the families involved...I pray for them.  They have been through enough as well.  We have all lost sight that no matter what, they were kids!  Mistakes were obviously made somewhere, and by at least one party in this situation...and only God knows which one.

I do not believe any of us are here to judge Joelle or the students.  That is not any of our place, but she is, in fact, asking us all to do that.  By going on the Dr. Phil show, (among other avenues), she is asking us to form an opinion.  I choose not to.  Once again, it does not matter to me!   But it is exhausting my energy to continually hear about it, read about it, and see it on T.V.   There is no way in this small town to get around that.  Don't we all just want what is best for the kids?  Is a lawsuit against our school district going to accomplish that?  Are we all willing to pitch in our tax money to pay for it?  Who is going to stand up and say, "Move to Glen Rose, America's Dream Town, if you have a problem here, just take it to DR.PHIL!"

Once again, I use the phrase....Get over it! Not to Joelle, but to the entire town!

Exactly pharper, she was not found guilty, AND she can teach again but choses not to.  Yes, she has told me that she does not want to teach again.  So, why are we bringing it up again 5 years later?  Hmmmm 

If *Get Over It* is a bit much, why do you use it again in your last sentence? And *you* might not care if she's considered guilty or innocent, but she does. For whatever reason. And saying you're not judging her is highly disingenous. Of course you are. Or your whole "Get Over It" comment would not be made.

There's also an easy fix for feeling exhausted about hearing about it. Cut people off when they try to talk about it, change the subject, don't watch television shows or listen to radio programs that feature it. In other words, if it's exhausting for you, shouldn't YOU be the first to *Get Over it*?

I am a teacher.  0 accusations of sexual misconduct are a great fear in my profession.  Students know that they can ruin a teacher's career with a 0 accusation.  Teachers who refuse to put up with bad behavior or poor classwork are the most common targets.

 The young man who recanted his accusations should have been run out of town.  The kid who failed the LD test ought to be whipped on the courthouse square.  The student who conveniently disappeared needs to be held responsible, too.

We had one of our students swear under oath to a district judge that students were using cocaine in the classroom while teachers slept and that students smoked pot in the hallways.  All of this was later proved to be completely fabricated.  People will tell big lies and repeat them many times until some of them actually begin to believe in their own 0hoods.

BTW, I've had relatives in Glen Rose for more than 30 years.  I am not at all surprised that some spoiled young men would do this and the district and life-time residents would back them up in their lies.  Glen Rose has long been known to be a town in which cold-blooded murder could be committed in front of the Courthouse in broad daylight and the shooter would be found not guilty. 

But that case from years back is for another day. 

Marcos, 

Cold blooded murder is still being committed in Glen Rose and in August a helpless brain injured young man was murdered in the nursing home, the Sheriff's office and DA covered it up, buried the young man before the family was even notified.   I know what if feels like to have your name slandered to a whole town, being black balled for even being in it and all of it was un1.  I hope Ms. Ogletree sues Glen Rose and has enough money to start a new life somewhere far away from the politics of this corrupt little town.   That is the only way I see you leaving the past behind and the horrible memories that haunt you.  God bless you Ms. Olgletree.