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From Ted Rall Why is it, exactly, that some prisoners “cannot be tried”? The Old Grey Lady explains why Obama wants this “entirely new chapter in American law” in a boring little sentence buried a couple of paragraphs past the jump and a couple of hundred words down page A16: “Yet another question is what to do with the most problematic group of Guantánamo detainees: those who pose a national security threat but cannot be prosecuted, either for lack of evidence or because evidence is tainted.” In democracies with functioning legal systems, it is assumed that people against whom there is a “lack of evidence” are innocent. They walk free. In countries where the rule of law prevails, in places blessedly free of fearful leaders whose only concern is staying in power, “tainted evidence” is no evidence at all. If you can’t prove that a defendant committed a crime — an actual crime, not a thoughtcrime — in a fair trial, you release him and apologize to the judge and jury for wasting their time.
That last paragraph succinctly puts another way how I was thinking about a different situation yesterday involving nebulous *evidence*. Update from Taibbi, who says Obama is smoking habeus corpus but not inhaling. Now there’s this Gitmo business. This, folks, just isn’t that tough a call. The prison (and the much less publicized archipelago of hard sites in foreign countries where more terror suspects are held) was a symbol of everything wrong and stupid about the Bush administration. Snatching people up by force and dumping them in rocks on the middle of the ocean without due process is the kind of thing that was last done by “civilized” cultures back in the days of the Roman Empire; since then it’s been the exclusive province of sociopathic third-world dictators like Stalin and Mobutu Sese Seko. It was absolutely imperative, from a public relations standpoint if nothing else, that Obama immediately repudiate these practices, design some kind of due process to deal with the already incarcerated prisoners, and show the world that what happened during the Bush years was an insane aberration, a result of our having accidentally elected an emotionally retarded sadist to the White House. Instead, Obama is on his way to doing exactly the wrong thing. He’s going to make a show of closing the base, but retain the underlying idea by keeping some of the prisoners in indefinite legal purgatory. In some ways this is worse than what Bush did, because Bush at least took a clear stand — he was nuts and thought this was the right thing to do. No matter how you look at Obama’s decision, it’s weighed somewhere along the line by political calculation. Either he thinks indefinite decision is right and he’s bowing to public appeals by closing the base, or else he thinks it’s wrong and is bowing to opposition outcry by maintaining the old policy. It’s one thing to change your mind or play both sides of the fence on matters that don’t involve human lives, on theoretical/hypothetical campaign issues, but another thing to do it with actual incarcerated human beings as the key variable in the political equation.
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1 - j.ogletree
1 Jun 2009 @ 3:32:07 PM
The issues brought up in this post are ones that in the past I never gave much thought. I saw our world through rose-colored glasses. I believed that only guilty people would ever be convicted of a crime because I believed that only guilty people were ever accused. Yes, I figured that there were the rare cases where an innocent person might be accused, but that if that were to happen, Perry Mason would come in and save the day. (And in that world, of course, innocent defendants would then be able to live their life as though they had never been accused of wrong doing.) I did not think prosecutors and police were influenced by outside sources to prosecute people for vendettas. My eyes have been opened. Now, as I drive on trips with my husband and children and we pass by a penitentiary, I shake my head and get tears in my eyes. I wonder how many people are in there, away from their families, convicted of a crime they didn
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2 - Anon
1 Jun 2009 @ 8:27:22 PM
To j.ogletree--what else can I say, AMEN! Well put, I could not have done nearly this good at explaining what you did!
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3 - humanbeing
1 Jun 2009 @ 8:43:09 PM
Unfortunately, the vast majority of Americans still buy the 'fear card' being propagated by the people like Cheney and Limbaugh. I refuse to go down that road. I support the Geneva Convention and the Constitution of the United States of America. We must continue to demand that our Government close Guantanamo. If you are willing to put away your rose-colored glasses and take an excursion into reality, please follow the link below from Bill Moyers Journal. The film is called Torturing Democracy. www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/05292009/profile.html
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