The GOP just *ain't* Republican any more

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The GOP just *ain't* Republican any more

18 January 2009 at 11:07:49 AM

Moanin' the Grand Old Party Blues
I've been a registered Republican since the Eisenhower administration --- for those of you too young or too old to recall, that is since the late 1950's --- and yes, I'm old!
The current GOP just "ain't" the same.  Over the years it's evolved into something totally different.
The old GOP believed in less government intervention into state affairs and people's lives.  Call me a rebel or an independent pioneer or just plain ornery, but I don't want our government to tell us what books we can read, or that our kids need to pray in public school, or that our property can be seized by the government for development purposes.
I'm from "the old school" where if you have damaged your credit and are in debt, you dig down deep and pull yourself out from that debt and get on with your life.  To me, a "bail-out" is what you do when your ship is sinking and is NOT a handout from American taxpayers.
Perhaps the GOP needs to make a name change to something more catchy and contemporary in nature to its political platform and philosophy --- say, like maybe the NEO-CONS, which is closer to a NeoConservative Party.  After all, when government believes it has a right to tell all of us unequivocally what we can and can't do, that nation goes from a Representative Democratic Republic to a more fascist orientation.
If you don't like that name change idea, how about an exodus by the REAL fiscal and political conservative Republicans within the current GOP to form their own party?  They could become the OGOP --- for Older Grand Old Party, which granted may be too redundant on the old slant --- or maybe even the "MCGOP" would be better, for More Conservative GOP.
Pres. George Walker Bush finally is stepping down as CEO of the United States of America after first bringing us all "down to our knees", but not before he made a mockery of the GOP by being fiscally irresponsible, invading our social beliefs, and setting a new precedence of atmospheric federal indebtedness that already has "dominoed" down to state and local government.
The main point I am making is that during the past several decades the GOP has evolved into a totally different self-fulfilling organism that believes in more government control, increasing taxes "creatively" on the general public still under the guise of "No New Taxes", and doing as little as possible to improve the overall quality of life for most Americans.
This was NOT the intent of the original GOP platform.
In addition, it has become the party of the corporate sector.  Certainly a review of political history past to the present clearly indicates that the GOP no longer maintains true Republican platforms, policies and objectives.  This is an instance of when "A Rose is a Rose is a Rose" no longer is a Rose.
Apparently the current GOP leadership must dismantle the internal mechanisms of a grand old party that has gone renegade.
On January 17, 1961 former Pres. Dwight D. Eisenhower tried to warn Americans in his farewell address that...

:...In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together..."


The reality of our modern time has proven Pres. Eisenhower was accurate.  During the past decade the direction of the United States has been altered as a world leader.  Our American roadway has become bogged-down with the greed of the corporate sector and purposeful mismanagement by government leaders.

American voters have taken the first giant step towards detoxing our poisonous system.  We have voted for a president with a modified perspective of openness and rejuvenation.  Next week after Sen. Barack Obama becomes President Obama, he will attempt to lead the U.S. away from its unproductive management style and instead will rebuild the path to our recovery.

Never doubt that the previously blinded and corrupt leaders who brought havoc to the American way of life are ever far removed.  Many still are at top levels of our government and in the corporate sector.  They await our first stumble on the new road so that they may again seize control for their own greedy purposes.

While the U.S. is on the way to recovery, it will take years to rebuild an ethical and purposeful foundation;  however; Americans must remain vigilant and cautious because "the water is filled with sharks."



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1 - salon   18 Jan 2009 @ 11:38:17 AM 

Course, I'm not Republican and of course, I didn't know until the last couple of years about the Democratic party, in the south, being the Dixiecrat party or racism. And I remember years ago when there were actually right-wingers that were far far out in their principles-and that was the John Birch Society. Seems to me that the Republican party, which at least in the past has espoused smaller government, etc, has become the party of right-wingers, and the Dixiecrats have joined the Republicans. No greater evidence to that than the inclusion of Sarah Palin as VP. (and now I think I better understand why Zell Miller said that the Democrats had left him-he was a Dixiecrat).

Party labels aside, I believe there are more and more people who are against welfare and handouts in any form, regardless of which party is doing it, and it's pretty clear that BOTH parties are, generally, up to their eyeballs in corporate collusion.

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2 - pstern   18 Jan 2009 @ 7:09:36 PM 

Two things in response, Salon.

First, Zell Miller is a Republican in Democratic drag.  That is, he supported and voted for most of the bills, actions and whims of the Bushian GOP.  So, what Miller says generally is two-faced and you have to read between the lines.

Secondly, you can trace the history of the GOP in the South more directly to Democrat Pres. Lyndon Johnson, who in advance knew the result of his signing the bill for tequal rights [of blacks].  Johnson knew that in signing it he was ensuring that the South would remain old GOP for a very long time.  He was right.

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3 - salon   18 Jan 2009 @ 7:17:00 PM 

I don't think anyone is fooled by Zell Miller. I clearly remember a couple of years ago when he tried to fight with Chris Matthews. He's a tool.

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4 - humanbeing   18 Jan 2009 @ 11:55:00 PM 

 First of all, pstern, the tag, 'Neo-Con' is already taken and I would be surprised if you really wanted to go there (Paul Wolfowitz, Elliot Abrams, Douglas Feith, Scooter Libby, Donald Rumsfeld, etc). I think poor Dubya was just a pawn for these people and their agenda, but that is another story.

Yes, the GOP, is in trouble. But the way I see it, this collapse is more about the need for all of us to move into the post-ideological world so that we may come together to solve our problems. Ideology, in my opinion, is obsolete. I don't give a damn about Republicans, Democrats, whatever. I care about Humanity and our environment. Simple.

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5 - pstern   19 Jan 2009 @ 4:58:31 AM 

HB, you don't give Bush enough credit.  He knew what he was doing.

If you review GW's personal and business history you will see how he always was a "whieeler, dealer" and manipulated things and people around him in his drive for success.

However, GW also was a screw-up in almost everything he did.  He was fortunate to have his Daddy's fortune and political/business clout to fall back on.

In his oil business his Daddy's wealthy associates bailed GW out of his failing oil company.

Don't fall into feeling sympathy for "poor Dubya" because in my opinion he does NOT deserve any.

As for party "tag", Neo-Con or Neo-Fascist each fit the Bush administration and the current GOP rulers.  Both are "already taken" but each name fits the description .

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6 - humanbeing   19 Jan 2009 @ 1:01:25 PM 

Even though I do see Dubya as quite a pitiful creature, I assure you that I also hold him accountable.

However, the question I am more interested in is the underlying power structure and agenda that has taken hold of our Democracy and propelled a character so obviously unqualified into the Presidency.

Neo-Con, Neo-Fascist...the more I delve into this, the darker it gets.

The question is, will Americans ever be willing to look at it?

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7 - pstern   19 Jan 2009 @ 2:05:20 PM 

I started writing on politics almost 10 years ago because I felt the need to speak out and give a different interpretation of what was really going on in this nation. Very few people wanted to hear it.

Your question, "The question is, will Americans ever be willing to look at it?" already has been answered in part.

U.S. voters elected Sen. Barack Obama as its next President. and that speaks volumes.  Americans have had enough.  But we have not gotten rid of all the wealthy interests who have been managing our direction.

However, to what extent do Americans know the depth of the Bush adminstrations atrocities?  That's something else.

I've always stated that before America can really heal itself it needs to put a complete halt on campaign contribution and gifts to lawmakers.

In addition, we need to prohibit special interest lobbyists from "pushing their wares" inside the Capitol during sessions.

We will have ongoing issues until we resolve these 2 issues.  Then we may be able to move on down a more sane and nobler path.

I don't think most Americans recognize how close we came to losing our nation's Self entirely.

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8 - humanbeing   19 Jan 2009 @ 4:50:58 PM 

In my opinion, the most disturbing issue on our plate today concerning our foreign policy in the Middle East is the power of the pro-Israel lobbies.  Their influence in our country has been so successful that anyone who criticises Israel's political and military agenda is considered to be an anti-semite. This has shut down almost all enquiry and public debate, in government, media and academia, as well as on Main Street. This is terrifying to me. Just this afternoon I caught part of the Dr. Phil show which is all about Obamamania before the inauguration tomorrow. As a counterpoint, Phil had Ari Fleischer among his panelists. While speaking about how unfairly Bush has been judged, Fleischer managed to get in a dig about "...what Jimmy Carter had done..." to the President. Remember Carter's book, "Peace, Not Apartheid" and how Carter was slammed for it?

I hope all Americans will begin asking the appropriate questions and doing their own research for the truth.

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9 - salon   19 Jan 2009 @ 4:51:13 PM 

And it's a good thing you did and do. I doubt, though, that your suggestions, which I agree with, will ever be implemented. The people in power have no incentive to make themselves less powerful.

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10 - salon   19 Jan 2009 @ 4:52:40 PM 

HB-meant to tell you that I got those books you're reading through interlibrary loan. I have 2 books to read before I can get to them but I'm looking forward to reading them.

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11 - tacman   19 Jan 2009 @ 10:37:33 PM 

I think that the GOP is in very rough water, especially with the younger generation. I have blogged on this topic in detail, and with out getting in too deep here, basically the GOP is tainted and disfavored by the younger generation for valid reasons.

12 - pstern   20 Jan 2009 @ 1:32:38 PM 

I think you are correct, tacman.   The GOP is leaving behind the youth of America, but also the political and fiscal Conservatives as well.  The poor elderly don't mean that much to the GOP either.

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13 - humanbeing   20 Jan 2009 @ 8:34:36 PM 

 I think what ultimately drove the GOP into the ditch (and us, too) was a platform that progressively dissolved into a mantra of hate and fear. Hate and fear are very powerful for awhile. But eventually something else has to kick in.

The degregulation of everything coupled with man's innate greed plus the legacy of Lee Attwater and his protege, Karl Rove and the Neo-Conservative agenda are the primary forces that I see in all this.

I do not let the Democrats off the hook for their pitiful performance during these years but I do believe the GOP sunk their own ship.

Nothing new here, is there?

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14 - pstern   21 Jan 2009 @ 9:41:56 AM 

HB, I think the 2-party system is killing the U.S.

Neither party has provided intelligent and reality-based leadership for the past several decades.

I believe that the GOP got into power back in Year 2000 because the Democrats botched things up before that.  People got sick of that type of leadership and said they would vote for the GOP because they couldn't do any worse.

Wrong!  They screwed up America more than the Democrats did, but there are 2 main parties in Washington and they both have provided terrible leadership for decades.  Both parties are responsible for where we are today.

Greed, power & control were the main reasons for the failed Bush administration. 

Apathy and not knowing the issues caused American voters to make too many mistakes that permitted our nation to plummet into chaos and economic collapse.  They voted for Bush & Co. twice!

As long as there are huge campaign contributions, extreme lobbying in D.C. and lawmakers who have forgotten their jobs and the Constitution of the United States, we will remain in the muck created by our own folly.

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15 - humanbeing   21 Jan 2009 @ 5:40:23 PM 

 I agree, pstern. I believe the two-party system has become obsolete.

I also believe that each and every one of us is complicit in the creation of our problems. Being informed is hard work and takes time but is the responsibility of all of us.

I do think Obama is reminding us of this. I hope each citizen resolves to participate on a greater level. We can move mountains if we choose.

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16 - pstern   21 Jan 2009 @ 7:49:43 PM 

Agreed, HB!

I think the current leadership of the GOP knows no other way to run the party.  They see everything other than their platforms and plans as "liberal"  and a threat to their existence.

They are going to be hard to get rid of.  Hard, but not impossible.

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17 - humanbeing   21 Jan 2009 @ 8:04:29 PM 

 I think it's really much bigger than 'Republican' or 'Democrat'. A new paradigm is in order and it has nothing to do with ideology, which I believe is also obsolete. What good is ideology if all it really does is polarize people and makes solutions impossible?

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18 - pstern   22 Jan 2009 @ 8:26:53 AM 

We need to get rid of the 2-party system, but that won't happen in the near future.

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