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Continuing with Audio from Texas State BOE on Science TEKS from November 2008

23 December 2008 at 12:34:28 PM

First post about it here.  In all posts about this, I will be putting in my own rough transcript, but listen to the audio for exact words spoken. I also have little idea how people's names are spelled from just listening to them spoken.

As I understand this first section, the questions the board had were: Why, since the language has been included in the previous TEKS, was there a decision to pull it now? Were or are there specific instances in the last 7 years of science classes teaching religion (I think that's pretty broad).

At the end of Bernal's talk. Leo to B- Has anyone violated the lawsuit? B. It was the teachers that didn't want the language. Science teachers that you selected. Dunbar to Bernal- have there been major accomplishments in the last 7 years in the scientiific world? Bernal. don't know. Terry to Bernal. Scienfici weakness and strengths. Federal law says you can't pull out evolution and teach it separately. Militiant Darwinists want to teach it separately.  Bernal. Objection to bringing in ID/Creation Institute as experts. Note: I think it's quite telling that the chairman, McElroy, says something like "We're not going to use our position versus theirs" at the end of this bit-showing that there's  no open mind before hearing all the testiimony, eh? MP3 (best to right click and download to your computer to listen to)

Vicky McCoy. Elementary Science Teks broad vague ineffective for teachers without a science background. Most elementary teachers do not have a science background.Grade 4- 4.10 some language changed or removed including identifying species that lived in the past, likeness between parent and offspring, the word adaptation completely out instead the word structures used. . 47F Fossils used to say analyze, now use a model. Why is Stephen Myer of Discovery Inst of Seattle serving on a Texas committee?MP3

Haley Summerford-Texas Assoc of Env Education MP3

Sandra Antallies-Houston ISD. Elementary science manager for 183 elementary schools. Too many teachers conversations involve how they covered the curriculum rather than engaged their students in the act of learning.. MP3    2nd-MP3

Alice Fielder- Big picture of the TEKS.  1999 science taught is 1 mile wide and an inch deep.IPC uncertain features won't count for graduation MP3

Max Brodsky- the strengths and weaknesses is intended to require instructors to add in religionexperts support changes. Religion not being used, phrase already currently existing in standards. .MP3

Paul Kramer- continue teaching S&W. disagreement within scientific community on evolution itself. Sekiptical of random mutations. Guts the very process of inquirty, throwback to a darker era.  (McElroy then asks that people in the room quit making fun of Kramer). Ever hear of Piltdown man? Greatest evolutionary hoax of the 20th century.  Mp3

more later.

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1 - salon   30 Dec 2008 @ 5:18:40 PM 

adding comment-found a link on werner arber - it appears that there's some question about the ID site actually being, um, truthful about what werner's position is.

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