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Some Ponderings about Constantine, the Errancy and Borrowing of Stories in the Bible and Other Pagan Gods
 


3 November 2008 at 11:51:01 AM
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After watching the Constantine movie last night, I thought I would look up a few things about Constantine. As in, was it true that he really killed his wife and son AFTER his so-called vision? Where was the vision documented? Was it true that he had so many sins that the pagans wouldn't absolve them but Christians would?

It seems that Constantine was a murderer and an adulterer and didn't actually convert until his deathbed so that he could continue to commit more sins.

Emperor] Galerius was followed by Constantine (Constantinius), another Mithraist, who nonetheless ended the proscription and declared Christianity legal. Some years later Constantine himself became a Christian, for reasons explained by his nephew Julian: Constantine at various times murdered his son, his second wife, and several other close relatives. Refused purification by the Mithraic Holy Father, who informed him that such crimes were unforgivable, Constantine turned to the Christians. He was told that all sins could be washed away by the Christian immersion initiation and, since Jesus differed from Mithra only in name, he promptly converted.

He did not, however, accept immediate immersion. Since the rite could be performed once only, and no alternative method of sin-removal yet existed, Constantine kept a priest at his side for the remainder of his life with instructions to immerse him the moment it became evident that he was about to die. He was thus enabled to sin with impunity for many more years, knowing that he could still obtain a no-questions-asked ticket to the pie in the sky when he died. Much later, when the Christian hierarchy recognised that the one-forgiveness-only rule was keeping people from being immersed until they were near death, the alternative ritual of forgiveness-through-confession was added to their mythology's mythology.
-- Mythology's Last Gods: Yahweh and Jesus, by William Harwood

It was Eusebius who recorded the story of Constantine's vision and it wasn't in his first book.

"The father of ecclesiastical history," as Eusebius of Caesarea is unhappily called, wrote his famous Ecclesiastical History some years before the death of Constantine; and it does not contain this very important miracle. When the emperor died, however, the bishop wrote a most untruthful and eulogistic "Life of Constantine," and in this he tells the story of the labarum. He tells us also that his chief business as a writer is to "edify"; which means, to advertise the Church. So modern historians are discreetly reticent about the zealous and courtly bishop. I will, as usual, supply the word which they leave unspoken. Eusebius was a liar. The other great Christian writer of the time, Lactantius, is by no means a model of veracity. But he merely says that Constantine saw the vision in a dream. The labarum appears on coins soon after the conversion of Constantine, but no one pretends that it was a reality except Eusebius.
-- The Story of Religious Controversy, by historian and former Catholic priest Joseph McCabe

Is it unreasonable to believe that someone might want to paint over his or her mistakes and have historians write glorious stories to whitewash the truth? Nope. We have an example currently of the Bush Library at SMU where he has his PR people working hard to try to spin his presidency for the future so that he doesn't look like so much of an abject failure and moral zero.

The movie "Constantine's Sword" went through the issues of a merged Christianity that purged pagans and even other christian beliefs that didn't match Constantines, at the point of a sword, and torture.

Excellent discussion from the late 1800's on the errancy of the Bible. by Robert Ingersoll 1894

This book, the Bible, has persecuted, even unto death, the wisest and the best. This book stayed and stopped the onward movement of the human race. This book poisoned the fountains of learning and misdirected the energies of man.

This book is the enemy of freedom, the support of slavery. This book sowed the seeds of hatred in families and nations, fed the flames of war, and impoverished the world. This book is the breastwork of kings and tyrants -- the enslaver of women and children. This book has corrupted parliaments and courts. This book has made colleges and universities the teachers of error and the haters of science. This book has filled Christendom with hateful, cruel, ignorant and warring sects. This book taught men to kill their fellows for religion's sake. This book funded the Inquisition, invented the instruments of torture, built the dungeons in which the good and loving languished, forged the chains that rusted in their flesh, erected the scaffolds whereon they died. This book piled fagots about the feet of the just. This book drove reason from the minds of millions and filled the asylums with the insane.

This book has caused fathers and mothers to shed the blood of their babes. This book was the auction block on which the slave- mother stood when she was sold from her child. This book filled the sails of the slave-trader and made merchandise of human flesh. This book lighted the fires that burned "witches" and "wizards." This book filled the darkness with ghouls and ghosts, and the bodies of men and women with devils. This book polluted the souls of men with the infamous dogma of eternal pain. This book made credulity the greatest of virtues, and investigation the greatest of crimes. This book filled nations with hermits, monks and nuns -- with the pious and the useless. This book placed the ignorant and unclean saint above the philosopher and philanthropist. This book taught man to despise the joys of this life, that he might be happy in another -- to waste this world for the sake of the next.

I attack this book because it is the enemy of human liberty -- the greatest obstruction across the highway of human progress.

Let me ask the ministers one question: How can you be wicked enough to defend this book?

P.S.Were Adam and Eve Persian (from now-Iran?)   Prevalance of flood myths around the world.


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