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UPDATED: So.. Is Sarah Palin LYING about being Miss Congeniality? Another Woman Said So, CORRECTION

1 September 2008 at 11:37:16 PM

Update: I'm STILL snickering over Palin but the Miss Congeniality brouhaha as detailed below turns out to be a case of someone with a faulty memory. From the St Louis Post Dispatch on Saturday

In comments reported in Deb Peterson's column Saturday, Amy Gwin, a classmate of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's at Wasilla High School, said she was incorrect in stating that the Miss Congeniality award in the Miss Wasilla competition in 1984 went to her and not to Palin. Gwin also said she did not mean that she thought Palin was shallow, but that she believes Palin's political experience is shallow in comparison to that of Hillary Rodham Clinton.

I leave the rest of what  was said because it's still an interesting story about changes in Wikipdia.

I can't keep from snickering this evening over and over as all this STUFF comes out about Palln. It's like watching a train wreck. Proves, of course, that McCain no way no how vetted her. But she WAS a woman. heh.

While there was no sign that her formal nomination this week was in jeopardy, the questions swirling around Ms. Palin on the first day of the Republican National Convention, already disrupted by Hurricane Gustav, brought anxiety to Republicans who worried that Democrats would use the selection of Ms. Palin to question Mr. McCain’s judgment and his ability to make crucial decisions.

At the least, Republicans close to the campaign said it was increasingly apparent that Ms. Palin had been selected as Mr. McCain’s running mate with more haste than McCain advisers initially described.

Yeah. More haste. that's, um, KIND.

And, as it turns out, apparently Sarah Palin may be LYING about being Miss Congeniality. Here's what wikipedia says. (at least until somebody from McCain's campaign tries to change it again.)

In 1984, Palin won the Miss Wasilla beauty contest, then finished second in the Miss Alaska pageant,[9] at which she won a college scholarship.[8] In the Wasilla pageant, she played the flute and claims she won "Miss Congeniality",[10] although Palin's schoolmate, Amy Gwin, contests that it was she who won the contest.[11]

From St Louis Today

ALASKA PIPELINE: Amy Gwin, 43, of University City, grew up in Alaska and competed in the Miss Wasilla, Alaska, competition in 1984 against GOP vice presidential choice Sarah Palin. Gwin said Friday that she won the Miss Congeniality award in the competition, although Palin's Wikipedia entry says she won the contest — and the Miss Congeniality award. Gwin was a year behind Palin, now 44, at Wasilla High School, which had about 800 students. Gwin said Palin was "a high school star in a good way," a beauty who got good grades and excelled at athletics. Gwin, who was president of her class, does not recall Palin holding school office. The Wikipedia entry on Palin said she was head of the school's Fellowship of Christian Athletes and captain of the basketball team. Gwin said she was not surprised when Palin became the governor of Alaska, but is astonished that she got the GOP nod for vice president. Asked whether she would support Palin because she knows her, Gwin said: "I wouldn't support her if she was my very best friend. I support Obama and don't share any of her (Palin's) politics. She's very shallow." Gwin is the director of agency relations for the Rodgers Townsend advertising firm. Her husband, Brad Nuccio, is executive VP of the St. Louis Science Center. The couple have two children, Mia, 9, and Max, 7.

Well, that ought to be easy enough to find out for sure from the teams that are NOW up there investigating Palin... finally.

Update: a commenter to this particular post noted that the references on Wikipedia have changed.... AGAIN. When I wrote this, the wikipedia entry said as noted above, and the reference was from this Marketwatch article.

But will this former Miss Congeniality in the Wassilla beauty pageant convince voters on a national stage to take her seriously?

Seems that AFTER this was written, SOMEBODY went back and edited her wikipedia entry again to THIS.

In 1984, Palin won the Miss Wasilla beauty contest (playing the flute),[7][8] then finished second in the Miss Alaska pageant,[9] at which she won a college scholarship and the "Miss Congeniality" award.[6]

Let's not forget that NPR interview about McCain's PR person rewriting the entry to be a fluff piece. At any rate, the new entry references a book by Kaylene Johnson. One cannot see the exact quote, so it is STILL impossible to know, unless one of our devoted readers who has the book wishes to do so, what Johnson said about the contest, and what sources SHE cites.About that book

According to the Seattle Times, Sturgis decided to publish a biography of Governor Palin after meeting her at a fundraiser in 2006. "No matter what you think about her politics, she's an interesting and an unusual politician," he told the paper.

To write the book, Sturgis recruited Kaylene Johnson, who lives near Wasilla, the town where Palin was mayor and still lives. Johnson has contributed to a variety of publications and written several books.

Johnson told the Associated Press (via the Seattle Post-Intelligencer) that while working on the biography of the Governor, she met with Palin twice and corresponded via e-mail. After the book was published, she asked Palin for her reaction, but the Governor said she hadn't read the book because it was "too strange" to read about herself.

Sturgis said he met Palin at a fundraiser. 

Here's the Chicago Tribune.

She grew up in Wasilla, a town of about 9,800 near Anchorage, and was an aggressive point guard on her high school's state championship basketball team. In 1984 she was crowned "Miss Wasilla" and voted "Miss Congeniality" by other contestants, a title that would no longer fit once she entered elective politics.

But then this from the WSJ

In 1984, Palin was chosen Miss Wasilla and went on to become the first runner-up in the Miss Alaska Pageant, but she won Miss Congeniality that year. Her family still holds ties to the pageant—her husband, Todd, was a judge in 2008’s Miss Alaska pageant.

When that happens and I have an exact reference, I'll update this blog entry. In the interim, due to three conflicting sources of information, who knows? My question still stands, was Palin lying?  And why does it matter? Because I'd like to know if some people want yet ANOTHER lying, scandal-ridden Republican in office.. and why?

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1 - suecris   3 Sep 2008 @ 3:11:25 AM 

This is a mistake and you should pull it.  The St. Louis woman won the wasilla Miss Congeniality contest.  Palin says she won the Miss Alaska M.C. title - look at her Wiki.

This kind of pettiness will make us look really really ... well ...  petty.

2 - salon   3 Sep 2008 @ 10:58:56 AM 

Speak for yourself, sis. I don't think it's petty at all to examine whether someone is attempting to dissemble about his or her resume. It's clear that the wikipedia page has been changed at least twice, because, if you look at my update above, the source has changed since it was first written. That doesn't make this entry wrong or worth pulling, it makes it worth examining what the actual sources are and whether they are accurate.

That said, I will be happy to definitively annotate this when the story is accurate on one side or the other.

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3 - dee   4 Sep 2008 @ 6:37:56 PM 

I think some people are accepting Sarah Palin because she is a woman and not necessarily the right person for the job. 
And good grief why doesn't she geet something done with that mop of hair.  It makes her look poorer than a church mouse!
Mrs. Obama has class but not Mrs. Palin.

4 - salon   7 Sep 2008 @ 10:27:55 PM 

Confidential to Carol-thank you for the alert about the correction the St Louis Post Dispatch did re: the Sarah Palin/Amy Gwin/Miss Congeniality contest. Not posting your comment because you have no way of knowing what Amy Gwin's motivation was-the newspaper said she had a faulty memory and I will leave it at that.

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5 - Mariah   27 May 2009 @ 8:01:35 PM 

>dee 4 Sep 2008 @18:37

Just as you have only judged her by her appearance and class, so have those who you say have judged because of her sex. Mrs. Obama is not running for vice president, she is first lady. That is apples and oranges. Having class has nothing to do with whether a person can lead a nation. Having richer looking, Dee pleasing hair doesn't either. Clear your opinions out, before you cut down someone elses.

6 - humanbeing   27 May 2009 @ 10:31:59 PM 

 Who cares?

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