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Obama Fighting all those False Stories About Him Being Islamic

28 February 2008 at 10:04:46 AM

Honestly, for me, I woudln't care if he was. I think that there has been quite enough racism and religious intolerance in the world. But the fact is that he's not. One of my grandfathers was a Methodist. The other one was a Catholic. I was raised as a Southern Baptist. But you'd think from some of the radical right vapors recently that a person must be categorized by what his ancestral kin's religion was. And a fallacy to that would be where a person decides to change religions-what's the point if he or she will still be tarred and feathered with someone else's choice?

It looks to me as if Republicans want to use racism as a tool to smear Obama. I really find it hard to believe that John McCain, whose campaign wanted that racist Cunningham guy to come warm up his rally crowd and give them "red meat" didn't know that the man was a nutcase. Would someone REALLY pick out any old person on the news to come speak without a clue of how John Birch Society-ish the man was?

Whatever. If Republicans (and apparently Hillary Clinton's campaign, too) intend to try to tie the baloney about Obama to what otherwise would be innocuous pictures, etc, then I'm going to speak out as often as possible about how utterly baseless those points are.

And here's a start, from the AP

Some of the rumors and allegations about Obama are clearly not true, yet still spread, often anonymously:

• A debunked chain e-mail circulating widely on the Internet suggests he is hiding his Islamic roots. It says he was sworn into the Senate on the Quran and turns his back on the flag during the Pledge of Allegiance.

He took his Senate oath with his hand on a family Bible, and he says, "Whenever I'm in the United States Senate, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America." In fact, no candidate could survive if he publicly spurned the pledge.

• Another false report says he attended a Muslim madrassa school as a child in Jakarta. Obama was born in Hawaii and moved to Indonesia when he was 6 to live with his mother and stepfather. He returned to Hawaii when he was 10 to live with his maternal grandparents. Interviews last year by The Associated Press at the elementary school in Jakarta found that it is a public and secular institution and has been open to students of all faiths since before Obama attended in the late 1960s. Said vice principal Akmad Solichin: "Yes, most of our students are Muslim, but there are Christians as well. Everyone's welcome here."

• Obama also has faced questions about his pastor at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, where he has been a member for 20 years. Trinity calls itself "Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian." But it accepts non-black congregants. The United Church of Christ's president and general minister, the Rev. John H. Thomas, was quoted in a church publication as pointing out that the Rev. Jane Fisler-Hoffman, Illinois Conference Minister, who is white, "has been a member of the congregation for years."

• Obama has been asked about Farrakhan's words of praise and Farrakhan's receipt of an award from "Trumpet Newsmagazine," a Trinity church publication last month. Obama told Jewish leaders Sunday: "An award was given to Farrakhan for his work on behalf of ex-offenders completely unrelated to his controversial statements. And I believe that was a mistake and showed a lack of sensitivity to the Jewish community and I said so."

Farrakhan did not endorse Obama but said Sunday: "This young man is the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better." Asked Tuesday night whether he would accept support from Farrakhan, Obama said: "I live in Chicago. He lives in Chicago. I've been very clear, in terms of me believing that what he has said is reprehensible and inappropriate. And I have consistently distanced myself from him."

Following an exchange with Clinton, he then added: "There's no formal offer of help from Minister Farrakhan that would involve me rejecting it. But if the word 'reject' Senator Clinton feels is stronger than the word 'denounce,' then I'm happy to concede the point, and I would reject and denounce."

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1 - rca   28 Feb 2008 @ 4:55:03 PM 

I am very pleased and glad that Obama is not Islamic, and I certainly agree that just because his Mother, brother, Father, Stepfather are (or were,?) absolutely does not mean that Obama is Islamic, as I take him for his word and that he is being truthful in that he clearly states he is a Christian and not a Muslim.

Your first statements on this blog are “Honestly, for me, I woudln't care if he was <Islamic>. I think that there has been quite enough racism and religious intolerance in the world.” Implies that you feel that Islam is tolerant of other religions, governments, civil rights, and others’ personal beliefs in the world which is very far from the truth. For one quick example Did you know - Quran (4:34) orders a man to beat his wife if she doesn't obey him? It is no wonder that Muslim women keep on lots of clothes and keeps their heads covered, and walk far behind their husband, and they don’t say much either. You probably can’t find many (any) Islamic wives speaking out on the Internet that’s for sure. I think you really "would care" not want to have an Islamic President or be influenced by an Islamic government given the choice and the knowledge of the choice. 

2 - salon   29 Feb 2008 @ 9:16:32 AM 

No. I don't think that Islam is necessarily tolerant of everyone else's religion in the world but you know as well as I do that there are a lot of flavors and sects in the Islamic religion, just as there is in Christian, or Jewish faiths.

However, that's WHY I believe that the founders of this country had separation of church and state as a bedrock principle. And why there should never be a reilgious test for office.. because to me, while someone's faith definitely influences and colors their decisions, how could it *not* be, it cannot trump upholding the constitution of the United States and the US LAWS.

I believe that the American public would soundly reject anyone who allowed his or her religion to dictate how the country should operate. Its' why I don't think Mike Huckabee, who wants to CHANGE the constitution to match his evangelical ideas, is losing.  We don't HAVE a religious hierarchy running this country and IF there is a distinction between a Biblical law and a secular one passed by Congress, the secular law TRUMPS. That's why the guy in  Euless- lost his case to practice slaughering chickens for santaria in his home.

It is NOT whether another person is tolerant of my faith, morality or thinking, it is whether WE as a country that is FOUNDED on religious tolerance and freedom will allow them, within the bounds of OUR LAW, to practice theirs. I don't care what religion someone practices, in this country, if you beat your wife, you could go to jail. That's how it is.

So, while I agree with you that, generally speaking, I don't want a Religious President or system that would seek to force what I don't agree with on the public, that is supposedly what people who respect the constitution will never have.

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