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16 January 2015 at 9:27:46 PM

Sharia Law is a danger to everything we hold dear and sacred in the United States.  There is a huge mistaken belief that Islam is a peaceful culture and religion.  Nothing is further from the truth.  Radical Muslims are trying to get Sharia Law approved in various US states and other countries.  Alabama voters recently voted against it.  Wise choice.

Once upon a time these Islamic beliefs weren’t such a problem for the US because Islamic countries were more primitive, backward and restricted to their Mid-Eastern regions, but now they have the means, capability and fanatical desire to be more global in their hostile actions. 

In short, we are targeted more by Islam and it will only get worse.  They want to kill all infidels and that is how they see Americans.

The world has become smaller and we must become more alert and ready to eliminate every and any threat.  There is no alternative.

Anyone who doesn't see Islam as a huge threat to the US is extremely naive or lying to themselves and to others.  I respectfully include President Barack Obama in that description.

As Americans we need to stop being so damned politically correct.  Islam is out to get rid of us, plain and simple, and we need to see that soon and get rid of the danger to our American way of life.


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1 - salon   17 Jan 2015 @ 7:04:38 PM 

As a women, I'm not in favor of religion, particularly where the practicers are fundamentalists who want to take some so-called holy text literally in order to subjugate or abuse women. I have never considered whether one religion is more violent than another, but I sure do think Christians  (warmongeres) and Jews (particularly in Israel) fall into that category as well. 

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2 - pstern   18 Jan 2015 @ 9:39:24 PM 

I don't think Americans fully comprehend the situation for Israel.  It is a nation almost completely surrounded by hostiles who want to kick all Jews into the Dead Sea.  It was the Palestinians recently who shot 1800 missles into Israel and not the other way around.  Israel would live in peace if the Arabs would let it.  Not a day goes by where Jewish lives are not in danger from hostile atttacks.  I suggest you review your observations on Israel and its neighbors.  If Israel attacks it is because there was provocation to attack.

BTW, as a woman you should know that Israel has always been pro-women's rights.  Israeli women also have served in the military along side men for generations.

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3 - salon   19 Jan 2015 @ 8:34:36 AM 

@Peter. I would feel a lot better about the Israel situation if some of them quit doing this. 

The takeover of the land in the area of Gush Etzion clears the way for expansion of a settlement named Gevaot.

Local Israeli settlements said they hoped to build on the land, which Palestinian officials said included many olive groves.

Chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat said the world community should hold Israel accountable for "the ongoing Israeli settlement activity in the West Bank and East Jerusalem", according to the AFP news agency.

Meanwhile, a US state department official was quoted by Reuters as describing the Israeli move as "counterproductive to Israel's stated goal of a negotiated two-state solution with the Palestinians".

The Palestinians want their state to include all land captured by Israel in 1967, but some 500,000 Jews now live in more than 200 settlements and outposts in the West Bank - including East Jerusalem.

The settlements are considered illegal under international law, though Israel disputes this.

And on women. I don't refer to religion in general, but fundamentalist religions, ANY OF THEM, where women are treated as second hand citizens. You no doubt read about the orthodox jews who refused to sit by women on the plane last year. . I've read the same thing about busses in the city and this

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4 - pstern   19 Jan 2015 @ 11:21:51 AM 

Fundamentalism is fundamentalism... it doesn't function well unless people buy into it... men and women.

You know, I'm pretty tired of so many people in the world feeling so badly regarding the Palestianians.  How many have given a damn of what Israel has to go through on a daily basis, since 1948.  Or about the Jews during biblical time, or during the world wars, or even now?

How many Americans here care equally about the plight of Native Americans and what we have done to those people? 

We hear a lot regarding the Palestianian plight constantly, but very little of what Israels must endure on a daily basis.

I traveled in the Middle East throughout the years and have had first-hand awareness of what goes on there.  While I would pray for peace in all nations the reality is that Israel has had a large share of aggressive neighbors constantly active in the region.  Israel has had to take care of itself and can't rely on anyone for assistance in keeping that nation safe.

So, when attrocities or violent acts occur and/or Israel is attacked, the Israelis respond at a higher level of aggression.  I've learned that I can't get that point across to people who have not actually been in the Middle East, who would have the knowledge of such events.  Yes, there is anymosity throughout the region and we know little about the overall picture.

But suffice to say that Israel does not usually start the aggression.  In fact, Israel has been very kind to the Arabs who live in Israel, and there are a lot of them who live well there.

Re: Mid-East religions that still worship in the same manner as was done during biblical times.  The Jews you read about who separated men from women are Orthodox.  They are separated in Synagogues, planes, trains, buses, in most places.  However many Israelis treat women equally.  Israel has even had a woman leader [Prime Minister], which is more than the US [President] has done.  The schism of peoples holds even for Orthodox Jews with Reformed Jews.  The Orthodox don't accept the reformed... or with Israeli Jews and American Jews.  It is very touchy regarding non-acceptance of each to the other.  I'm not saying it's right, but it's always been that way.

The same is true in other Mid-East cultures that separate men and women and/or who don't treat their women well or kindly, as per American views and practices.

The Middle East is a different world and is still very primitive in general.  If you are looking for the Middle Eastern countries to treat women as we do, for the most part you will be very disappointed and naive.  And we even have issues here, e.g., the salaries of men and women doing the same job, etc.

Each of these cultures believes strongly in tradition and each has a longer history of tradition than we do in the US.  We have several hundred years at best.  The nations of the Middle East have thousands of years of tradition.  It's not going to change very quickly... things in the US don't change quickly either, but more quickly than nations in the Middle East.

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5 - salon   19 Jan 2015 @ 11:31:26 AM 

Let me repeat that I am talking specifically about, not more moderate religions, whatever they are, but the ones that are ultra fundamantal. That applies equally not just to ultra orthodox Jews but ultra orthodox Christian fundamentalis (who will not let women lead a church as a minister, for example) or ultra orthodox Muslims. I don't expect that every country is going to treat women the way I would like them to, but I'm also not going to pretend that the FACT these religions have a basic philosophy of treating women differently should be given a pass or never have those views criticized.

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6 - pstern   19 Jan 2015 @ 12:03:47 PM 

I understood, just thought I'd make myself clear on the issue as I perceive it.

Fundamentalist religion works still because most of the people in them agree with the rules.  Women have had their roles since ancient times.  Many may or may not want their roles to change.

Getting back to Israel.... Jews have had to fight to keep their land since biblical times.  After 1948 when Israel received statehood, Israel had to fight to keep that land.  Animosity against Jews has continued through the ages.

No nation anyway else in the world has such hostile neighbors as does Israel.  It is almost surrounded on all sides by nations that want to drive Israel into the sea.

Little has changed since biblical times.  Israel still fights to suvive in the Middle East.  Expansion of land is part of the whole issue in that region.

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7 - salon   19 Jan 2015 @ 10:39:00 PM 

One more on that, from jobsanger with a map showing how much land Israel occupies now compared to Palestinians.

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8 - pstern   20 Jan 2015 @ 3:18:50 PM 

That means little to me.  Is there a point?  Was Palestine an actual nation in 1946?  No.

Israel became a nation back in 1948 mostly thanks to Great Britain and the US.  There was no place for the Jewish People to have a state.  No real place to call home.

There was no real state of Palestine back then.  A chunk of land was carved out that formed the state of Israel.  Jewish people came from within the area and outside of the area.

Thanks to Hitler and the Nazis, the Jewish People dispersed throughout the world.  The Jews were not welcome in the Mid-East even during Biblical times.  Many, many Jews were slaves to the Pharaoh and to other leaders in the vicinity.

Jews weren't welcome to the State of Israel either back in 1948.  Arabs in the area didn't want the Jews to settle there.

Google how much land Israel has had in between 1948 to 2015 and you will see some of the give and take within the Mid-East region.  There has been animosity and a back and forth of land taken on all sides.  There is no chance for a lasting peace among Arabs and Jews.  Westerners, particularly Americans, think the Middle East should be peaceful but have now Idea of the history of animosity within the area.  There will never be peace, just as democracy will not last forever.  The average length of time for a democratic country is 200 years.  It doesn't last.

I am curious... what do you want to see in the Middle East and for Jews and Arabs?  How would you like to see the development of the 2 different peoples?

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9 - salon   20 Jan 2015 @ 8:16:43 PM 

I don't have any issue about carving out a state for Israel. I believe that down through time, because of Christian bigotry, Jews in general have been treated badly. I can't remember the name of the movie I watched a few years ago that talked about some part of the world, I think Spain if I remember correctly, where Jews were forced to convert to Christianity or die. That said, it's wrong to do land grabs in occupied territory.

Peace Now said the land seizure was the largest announced by Israel in the West Bank since the 1980s and that anyone with ownership claims had 45 days to appeal. A local Palestinian mayor said Palestinians owned the tracts and harvested olive trees on them.

Israel has come under intense international criticism over its settlement activities, which most countries regard as illegal under international law and a major obstacle to the creation of a viable Palestinian state in any future peace deal.

Nabil Abu Rdainah, a spokesman for Western-backed Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, called on Israel to cancel the appropriation. "This decision will lead to more instability. This will only inflame the situation after the war in Gaza," Abu Rdainah said.

 Not saying that Palestine is innocent but I vigorously object to displacing people who live in an area by a land grab.

The administration of President Barack Obama, who has been at odds with Netanyahu over settlements since taking office in 2009, pushed back against the land decision. It was the latest point of contention between Washington and its top Middle East ally Israel, which also differ over Iran nuclear talks.

“We have long made clear our opposition to continued settlement activity,” said the State Department official, who declined to be identified.

"This announcement, like every other settlement announcement Israel makes, planning step they approve and construction tender they issue, is counterproductive to Israel's stated goal of a negotiated two-state solution with the Palestinians," the official said.

After the collapse of the last round of U.S.-brokered peace talks, U.S. officials cited settlement construction as one of the main reasons for the breakdown, while also faulting the Palestinians for signing a series of international treaties and conventions.

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10 - pstern   20 Jan 2015 @ 11:06:34 PM 

It's not the first time nor the last time that the US and UN as well as other agencies have disagreed with Israel over land acquisitions.  And Israel will do whatever it wants and needs to in order to survive in that area of the world. 

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