"I've got the Pecan plantation income statement... this is just pulling everything out that is done at Pecan... "
Shaw "I think Pecah Plantation operations, some questions come up from time to time about the legality of our existing over there. I feel confident we're on firm ground but is there some way of tracking bad debt and or charitable care at Pecan. You know, we put our tax dollars into 3 places, debt, bad debt and what was the other one, I don't remember .. charity care. So unless we're putting tax dollars into charitable care at Pecan, unless we're putting tax dollars into bad debt at Pecan, then there's no tax dollars going to Pecan. If there's some means of identifying"
Honea: I would think there would be .. I'll have to do some digging"
Shaw: "I go out under the opinion that every little of our bad debt occurred at Pecan.. but unless we dont' have some method of tracking that, we can't confirm it.... it would be in our best interest to know how that was.
Someone, probably Mike Honea, has a Pecan Plantation report from the clinic that is being operated over in Hood County.
Shaw feels confident that GRMC is on firm ground with spending Somervell county taxpayer money in a different hospital district, Hood County, at a clinic at a gated community that does not serve a public purpose. Fine. He has always "felt" that way. Feelings don't make something legal.
Shaw: Is there some way to track bad debt? Tax dollars- debt, bad debt, charity (indigent charitable debt). Unless we're putting tax dollars into charitable care, bad debt, then there's no tax dollars going to Pecan.
Unbelievable.That's not actually the issue, does Mr Shaw really not know that? The issue is that taxpayer dollars are going to Pecan to lease the building, buy medical equipment for it, pay doctors to be there, etc. If putting all that money there isn't bringing in income, that doesn't change whether it is LEGAL TO SPEND IT THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Shaw. Is there some way of identifying?
Honea. It will take a little digging.
Shaw. Unless we have some method of tracking that.. we're all about confirming. Would be in our best interest to know how that works.
Gee. I guess Mr Shaw's *feeling* didn't encompass any actual opinion based on information.
Plus, doesn't Shaw's comment, above, blow a hole in the oft-repeated statement about how much money the Pecan Family Medical Center brings in? If they don't know about bad debt, then how do WE as taxpayers know we aren't simply subsiziding a sinkhole?
Reynolds repeats that Dr Carpenter and Peters are handled through the 501a.
Shaw "In this budget there's no one over there... we don't have a business office personnel there.. For Dr Peters... handled through our 501a.
Reynolds: Two people that are expected to collect from the patient. They ask for payment there at the time of service.. as far as bad debt, we do that through Athena. Joe, our collector, doesn't collect for 501a."
That would be THIS 501a.
? Honea? Taxpayers don't like their tax dollars going to Pecan Plantation
Shaw: We already know they don't like it. I'm trying to get an answer..
Hope this means the Somervell County Hospital District is asking their attorney about the legality of doing that, rather than just trading on "feelings".
Note that they refer always to Pecan Family Medical Center as a clinic and not a hospital.
Burroughs. Can you try to identify clinic revenue versus hospital revenue?
Honea. Clinic revenue is the hospitals rounding here on their patients, one of their patients being here in the hospital.
Honea went on to explain what the difference is between hospital and clinic revenue. I'm not sure what he meant precisely, but perhaps having a detailed report will show that.