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Will the South Rise Again?

27 July 2013 at 9:16:10 AM

Another Civil War anyone?


Most of the "red" states have been or are fighting for a Voter Photo ID Card that will make voters in the respective states show the card in order to vote.


Recently, by a 5-4 vote, the Supreme Court determined to strike down part of the Voter Law that enables states to bypass a previous decision against a Voter Photo ID Card.  Previously it was deemed unconstitutional and "racist" to demand that voters must show the card at polls.


As soon as the vote was in, Texas approved the Voter Photo ID Card and now Attorney General Eric Holder is demanding that the Federal Court in San Antonio, Texas, requires Texas to ask for Federal permission prior to changing any Voter laws. 


Holder cites as his reasoning that Texas has been one of "those states" that has had "racist issues" in its past and therefore, to ensure voting integrity, must seek Federal permission, a.k.a., oversight, before changing ANY of its Voter laws.


Texas, along with Alabama, Wisconsin, Montana, Mississippi and several other "red" states is being "targeted" by Holder and the Obama administration for changes in Voter laws.


Not surprising to anyone, neither side is willing to give an inch on this issue and it is sure to come to a head eventually.  Will the South rise again in this fight?  Texas Attorney General and gubernatorial candidate Greg Abbott declares that Texas will win this battle.  In legal actions Abbott is not often wrong.


It's going to be an interesting fight as both sides are gearing up for a prolonged  battle in the courts.

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1 - salon   27 Jul 2013 @ 12:40:50 PM 

I think there's already a stubborn group of southern states who are quite happy to snarf up money from the federal government while pretending they're not part of the United States. I' ve been doing quite a bit of reading about secession lately and, while my opinion is not completely formed, i do believe that states should have the right to secede by government channels. In the EU, any member can decide to leave the union. And, heck, our own Revolutionary war was based on the idea that we should be able to secede from England. It looks to me that at least some of the early founders believed that states had the right to secede.

Texas under Rick Perry wants to run itself like a banana republic. I love Texas but if Texas could just up and say, I will no longer be grabby hands for the fed money and will be on my own, we could all decide whether we liked the viewpoint of the UNITED States or the mean actions of a state that cares little for its own citizens. Perry has already called himself President of Texas, so I imagine him secretly telling himself that many times a day.

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2 - pstern   27 Jul 2013 @ 2:14:26 PM 

Texas does have the right to secede by law, but only if the other states agree to it.  It does NOT have the legal right to simply secede on its own. 

Furthermore, Texas needs to be very careful that it may get what it wants... if the other states buy the ongoing bluff that Texas wants to secede. 

Rick Perry already said Texas does not want to --- but only after planting the seed in the minds of quite a few Texans.  Ha-ha!  So, he is the big bluffer himself.

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3 - pstern   28 Jul 2013 @ 10:29:27 AM 

The Amarillo Globe discusses the preclearance issue re: states and the feds.


"To no one’s surprise, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder has asked a federal court in San Antonio to keep requiring Texas to get Department of Justice approval for any changes on voting laws the state makes.

The federal approval, known as pre-clearance, is necessary because of the state’s long history of racial discrimination, Holder argued in a speech in Philadelphia. In addition, two federal benches in Washington ruled separately last year the redistricting maps and voter ID law the Texas Legislature approved in its 2011 session had the intent to discriminate against racial minorities."

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4 - salon   28 Jul 2013 @ 1:03:09 PM 

I haven't actually read all the parts to this, but I thought that SCOTUS only struck down part of the law. Seems like Texas (or any other state) can't push their blantanly gerrymandered map without any repercussion.

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5 - pstern   28 Jul 2013 @ 7:53:22 PM 

It did strike down only part of the law.  But Texas, because it came into Statehood when and how it did, became a state contracted forever and it cannot break the contract [as a state].  However, there is a provision in the contract that permits Texas to secede ONLY if it gets permission to do so from all the states.

The racist history of Texas [and other states with similar racist history] enables the Federal Government legally to demand that Texas requests approval for any change to the voter laws.  Unless SCOTUS comes up with a different law or interpretation of the law, that will hold.

Greg Abbott says Texas will win.  Abbott isn't wrong legally too often.  Guess we'll see.

The GOP "inspired" redistricting maps will continue to be fought in the courts until the issue reaches the Supreme Court.  What Democrats are hoping for is a change by a court that the GOP maps will be put on hold.  It was shot down once, but then was approved on the GOP appeal process.

It will continue this way for a while until someone or some court has the last word.

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