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Paul Ryan Co-Authored a Bill with Akin - Abortions ONLY if *forcible rape*Oh-there are different kinds of Rape?

21 August 2012 at 10:40:20 AM

Since Paul Ryan's position was that there should be no chance of abortion even in case of rape, is this Mitt Romney's position too? He gave a general outraged statement, but some reporters need to pin him down. Does Mitt Romney support legal abortion in the case of rape? Does Mitt Romney think that the definition of rape should be parsed and there is a difference between *forcible* or *legitimate* rape and some other (????) kind of rape? ASK HIM.

This radical intrusive way of treating women is the Republican platform.

Apparently Paul Ryan made a private call to Todd Akin on Monday night.

So today, up pops this video.

Let's see. The problem was the *words he chose*. So, does he mean that it was not okay to call it *legitimate* rape but there is still a matter to be sliced about rape itself? Apparently so, because this is what he told Mike Huckabee on Monday night.

Huckabee pressed Akin on what he meant by the term “legitimate rape.”

“I was talking about forcible rape,” Akin said. “It was absolutely the wrong word. … I’ve known people who have been raped. I don’t know any who have been raped and it turned out to end in pregnancy, but I know that happens too.”

Did Akin suddenly talk to doctor and find out that his so-called science (he IS the head of the House Science committee) that women can't get pregnant if it was a legitimate rape, was a crock or does he think that if you call it *forcible* rape, a woman can't get pregnant? I didn't hear him say anything like that.

Wait, Wait. So there is STILL, even after Akin tried to explain himself to apologize, a difference between *forcibile rape* and some other kind of rape. That's what Paul Ryan and a whole lot of Republicans believe too. Did Paul Ryan change his mind and he's no long in support of his *forcible rape* language? He needs to be ASKED that question- HAS HE FLIP FLOPPED?

Let's just repeat that last *forcible rape* stuff, this from the St Louis Post Dispatch

Akin said in an interview broadcast on Sunday that in the case of "legitimate rape" the female body can resist pregnancy and "has ways to shut that whole thing down."  Many doctors have disputed the statement, saying it has no scientific basis. 

Akin said on Monday that he "was talking about forcible rape and it was exactly the wrong word." 

"Rape is never legitimate," Akin added.

Oh, He should have said Forcible. Forcible versus some other kind of rape. Ugh.

Here's Akin's spiritual mentor, who believes women are just sort of hysterical

Both Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan say that they disagree with what Akin said But Paul Ryan cos-sponsored a bill that said that there no women could get abortions unless there was, not just rape, but *forcible rape*..

As reprehensible as they are, current US Congressman and possible US Senator Rep. Todd Akin‘s (R-MO) remarks on the medical effects of “legitimate rape” are a gift to voters, who will now be exposed to the truth about vice-presidential nominee Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI), who co-sponsored a bill that insisted on an abortion exception only in cases of “forcible rape.”

The remarks also shine a light on the Romney/Ryan ticket’s competing views on rape and reproductive freedom, issues that might otherwise have been overlooked....

The medical basis for Akin’s statement appears to be a recently-published study from The New England Journal of Todd Akin’s Ass, but the subtext is that not all rapes are created equal, an idea that was nearly codified into law by Akin and Rep. Paul Ryan, along with 216 other Republicans (and 10 Democrats!).

H.R. 3, the No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act, originally contained language restricting the exception for federally-funded abortions to “an act of forcible rape or, if a minor, an act of incest,” and offered no further clarification of the term. On its face, the law would have eliminated statutory rape (on the premise that, what? That ten year-old clearly was into it?), but also left open the possibility that rapes involving drugging, or even rapes that did not result in serious enough injuries to the victim, would fail to fit the definition. He held a gun to your head? Where’s the gun? Did you check to see if it was loaded?

Under tremendous public pressure, they dropped the “forcible rape” language before passing the measure 251-175. It’s currently several Republican senators and a President away from becoming law.

And Paul Ryan himself doesn't think this bill went far enough. He doesn't think even women who were raped should be able to get abortions. .He also supports *personhood* which is a really out there position that has been voted down when it's come up in states for a vote. And, like Sid Miller, he thinks women should be forced to get an ultrasound before being able to get a legal abortion.

So, Mitt Romney and particularly Paul Ryan have now down yet another flip flop or etch-a-sketch moment. Does this mean, since Paul Ryan now supports abortions, that Catholic priests will be against him? Will he not be able to get communion any more?

I agree with President Obama. Rape is Rape.

“The views expressed were offensive,” President Obama said. “Rape is rape and the idea that we should be parsing and qualifying and slicing what types of rape we’re talking about doesn’t make sense to the American people and it certainly doesn’t make sense to me.”

The president tried to use the comments to draw a starker line between his and Mitt Romney’s views on abortion and women’s health issues.

“What I think these comments do underscore is why we shouldn’t have a bunch of politicians, the majority of whom are men, making health care decisions on behalf of women,” the president said.

“Although these particular comments have led Governor Romney and other Republicans to distance themselves, I think the underlying notion that we should be making decisions on behalf of women for their health care decisions or qualifying forcible rape versus non-forcible rape, I think those are broader issues and that is a significant difference in approach between me and the other party,” Mr. Obama said.

One reason why I"m voting for Obama.... again.

P.S. This is nutty.

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1 - humanbeing   21 Aug 2012 @ 12:05:33 PM 

All rape is 'forcible'. That's why it's called rape instead of consensual sex. I doubt that these men are using incorrect language because none of them understand the definition of the word nor have access to dictionaries.

What's really being expressed here is the common notion among many males (most of whom have never been raped and will never get pregnant) that rape is all about sex, instead of one person's attempt to have power over another through force and violence, and therefore believe that rape couldn't really be all that bad.

There's nothing sexy about rape for the perpetrator or the victim. What women who have been raped chose to do for their recovery, at least the ones that don't get murdered, is their private business and is inappropriate territory for ideologically obsessed politicians or any legislation that would limit their choices.

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