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Rick Perry Wants to Dismantle Medicare and Social Security
 


12 August 2011 at 1:57:32 PM
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Remember George Bush's Dog N Pony where the longer he went out to try to convince people that it would be good to privatize Social Security? And the LONGER he was on the road, the lower his popularity went?

Let's save Prophet Rick Perry the embarrassment by leeting him have his secessionist dreams of Texas and keeping him there instead of Washington.

From the Daily Beast

In the interview, Perry hints that he would do more to limit the power of the federal government—or at least attempt to do more—than any president since Calvin Coolidge. His argument is basically that we should dismantle most of the last 75 years of national policy and relinquish even Washington’s least controversial responsibilities to the states.

Perry believes, for example, that the national Social Security system, which he calls a “failure” that “we have been forced to accept for more than 70 years now,” should be scrapped and that each state should be allowed to create, or not create, its own pension system. “I would suggest a legitimate conversation about let[ting] the states keep their money and implement the programs,” he says.

Perry also includes Medicare in his list of programs “the states could substantially better operate,” suggesting that each governor should be “given the freedom from the federal government to come up with his own innovative ways [of] working with his legislature to deliver his own health-care innovations to his citizens.”

Here is exactly what was said in Newsweek

NEWSWEEK: The Constitution says that “the Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes… to provide for the… general Welfare of the United States.” But I noticed that when you quoted this section on page 116, you left “general welfare” out and put an ellipsis in its place. Progressives would say that “general welfare” includes things like Social Security or Medicare—that it gives the government the flexibility to tackle more than just the basic responsibilities laid out explicitly in our founding document. What does “general welfare” mean to you?
PERRY: I don’t think our founding fathers when they were putting the term “general welfare” in there were thinking about a federally operated program of pensions nor a federally operated program of health care. What they clearly said was that those were issues that the states need to address. Not the federal government. I stand very clear on that. From my perspective, the states could substantially better operate those programs if that’s what those states decided to do.

Hey, before you give this one more thought, go LOOK at where Texas ranks in services. If you think for one minute that Rick Perry, who GUTS social programs like he's eating a morning egg, would have any state do better than the sytem we're on, please pass me what you're smoking.

More: Rick Perry Called Social Security a Ponzi Scheme. From the San Antonio Express

Gov. Rick Perry stopped off in the Alamo City on Tuesday for a bite of barbecue and a bit of promotion for his new book - and called for completely repealing President Barack Obama's health care legislation while he was at it.

In his 12-minute speech at Augie's Barbed Wire Smokehouse Bar-B-Que near Brackenridge Park, Perry took on the federal government, from health care reform to Social Security. Perry pushed for a repeal of Obama's health care legislation "in its entirety."

"You can't go through this piece by piece. You need to repeal it in its entirety," he said. "Then let's have them start anew from the premise that the states can better handle these questions."

In a post-speech news conference, Perry further attacked Social Security - as he did in his book "Fed Up! Our Fight to Save America from Washington" - and said he did so to create a "national dialogue."

"I want people to be afraid not to talk about that Social Security is bankrupt and is a Ponzi scheme and if you've got a young 20-something-year-old, they know for a fact that they're not ever going to see that," he said. "So let's fix it."

Perry's speech, in which he also railed against government intrusion into citizens' lives, focused largely on national issues.

Social Security is NOT a Ponzi Scheme- VENN diagram

From the Grand Forks Herald It's interesting because Rick Perry is apparently now attempting to *walk back* what he said before, ie flip flop

Two days, to be exact. After Texas Gov. Rick Perry announced his candidacy for the presidency, that’s how long it took him to walk back from his notion that Social Security should devolve to the states.

“Asked by Ben Smith whether Social Security should be replaced with state-based benefit programs, as Perry once suggested in a Newsweek interview, the governor hedged,” Politico.com reports.

“‘I’m for having a conversation with the country about how we find some solutions,’ he said at the Iowa state fair. ‘Having the states doing it is one of the ways.’”

Now, maybe Perry will see even more of the light and stop referring to Social Security as a Ponzi scheme. Because while Social Security is many things, it clearly is not a sibling or even cousin of, say, Bernie Madoff’s swindle that bilked investors out of billions. Here’s why.

He goes on to discuss exactly what a Ponzi scheme is and how Social security is more akin to a pipeline.

“But that is where the similarity ends. A pay-as-you-go system can be visualized as a simple pipeline. ...

“As long as the amount of money coming in the front end of the pipe maintains a rough balance with the money paid out, the system can continue forever. There is no unsustainable progression driving the mechanism of a pay-as-you-go pension system, and so it is not a pyramid or Ponzi scheme.”

The key words in this passage are these: “rough balance.” As baby boomers retire in the decades ahead, Social Security is forecast to get out of balance. But political decisions today (such as raising the retirement age) can restore that balance, allowing Social Security to survive in a way no Ponzi scheme ever could.

“The first modern social insurance program began in Germany in 1889 and has been in continuous operation for more than 100 years,” the historian’s office notes.

“The American Social Security system has been in continuous successful operation since 1935. Charles Ponzi’s scheme lasted barely 200 days.” Remember that the next time Perry or anyone else calls Social Security a Ponzi scheme.

Rick Perry now trying to say that because he didn't use the word *Unconstitutional*, means he's not against Medicare? Baloney!

— 8. Medicare Is Too Expensive But Must Never Be Cut: Both establishing Medicare in 1965 and expanding it to include prescription drugs in 2003 are examples of “an irresponsible culture of spending in Washington” (page 63), but establishing “‘councils of experts’ and panels of various sorts” to assess the cost effectiveness of different Medicare-eligible treatments is a “frightening” “scheme” that “undermines freedom” and can be fairly labeled “death panels” (page 81).

and

What about Medicare? That’s an even bigger contributor to these debt problems. 

Here’s the problem, in the 25 years that I’ve worked in Texas state government both as a legislator, an appropriator, then as lieutenant governor and the governor of Texas: Washington attaches strings to all these programs. They take away the incentive for innovation because they say here is a portion of your money back and here are the only ways that you can spend it. That on its face is bad public policy. And again, I think it’s an abuse of our Constitution. There’s no place in the Constitution that says Washington, D.C. is supposed to be mandated health-care coverage, for example. That gets to the very core of the book. If America really wants to be strong again, we need to get back to the principles this country was based upon. The Constitution as it was written, and the 10th Amendment that clearly says the states are where these decisions should be made. Moving back in that direction will create substantially more competition. States should be laboratories of innovation. I promise you, I know you did a profile on Bobby Jindal, who I happen to think is one of the brightest governors in our country. Bobby knows health care very well. If he were given the freedom from the federal government to come up with his own innovative ways working with his legislature to deliver his own health-care innovations to his citizens, I guarantee he could do it more efficiently and more effectively than one-size-fits-all coming out of Washington, D.C. 

But again, Medicare. It’s been in place for more than four decades now. What do you suggest we do to set it on a more fiscally sustainable path going forward? 

I think we need to have a national discussion and not be afraid to talk about it. That is my goal. I didn’t write the book and say anywhere in it, I got all the solutions. What I did say is, We have to be courageous as a country and stand up and admit that we have a Social Security program that is bankrupt, that is a Ponzi scheme, that Medicare and Medicaid collective had $106 trillion worth of liability that is unfunded, and that we need to deal with it and quit passing it on to the next Congress and the next generation.

Update. Now Rick Perry is trying to walk it back and say that it's misinformation that he wants to do away with Social Security. Hey, like he says, Go Read his book!

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