What is Dan Flynn? The Texas Taliban? Bill to Display Ten Commandments in Classrooms


What is Dan Flynn? The Texas Taliban? Bill to Display Ten Commandments in Classrooms

16 November 2010 at 12:38:39 PM

Here's the text of the bill.

  82R57 EAH-D
  By: Flynn H.B. No. 79
  relating to the posting of the Ten Commandments in public school
         SECTION 1.  Subchapter D, Chapter 11, Education Code, is
  amended by adding Section 11.172 to read as follows:
         Sec. 11.172.  POSTING OF TEN COMMANDMENTS. The board of
  trustees of an independent school district may not prohibit the
  posting of a copy of the Ten Commandments in a prominent location in
  a district classroom.
         SECTION 2.  This Act applies beginning with the 2011-2012
  school year.
         SECTION 3.  This Act takes effect immediately if it receives
  a vote of two-thirds of all the members elected to each house, as
  provided by Section 39, Article III, Texas Constitution. If this
  Act does not receive the vote necessary for immediate effect, this
  Act takes effect September 1, 2011.

Yuh-huh. I'm so sure that school districts that are already so tight on their funds are going to want to spend public school money on legal battles. And I'm guessing Flynn didn't do any research into court cases the SCOTU has already decided-heh.

The preeminent purpose for posting the Ten Commandments on schoolroom walls is plainly religious in nature. The Ten Commandments are undeniably a sacred text in the Jewish and Christian faiths, [n3] and no legislative recitation of a supposed secular purpose can blind us to that fact. The Commandments do not confine themselves to arguably secular matters, such as honoring one's parents, killing or murder, [p42] adultery, stealing, false witness, and covetousness. See Exodus 20:12-17; Deuteronomy 5:16-21. Rather, the first part of the Commandments concerns the religious duties of believers: worshipping the Lord God alone, avoiding idolatry, not using the Lord's name in vain, and observing the Sabbath Day. See Exodus 20:1-11; Deuteronomy 5:6-15.

This is not a case in which the Ten Commandments are integrated into the school curriculum, where the Bible may constitutionally be used in an appropriate study of history, civilization, ethics, comparative religion, or the like. Abington School District v. Schempp, supra at 225. Posting of religious texts on the wall serves no such educational function. If the posted copies of the Ten Commandments are to have any effect at all, it will be to induce the schoolchildren to read, meditate upon, perhaps to venerate and obey, the Commandments. However desirable this might be as a matter of private devotion, it is not a permissible state objective under the Establishment Clause.


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1 - tom 47   17 Nov 2010 @ 12:27:03 PM 

Well, just print the copies in Hebrew-- that ought to slow MANY schoolchildren down.  Or, put 'em in several languages.

Are school districts currently prohibiting display of same?


More religious extremist nutcase craziness.

2 - humanbeing   17 Nov 2010 @ 1:20:33 PM 

Mr. Flynn is probably just pandering to voters.

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3 - salon   17 Nov 2010 @ 1:39:15 PM 

Heh. Next he'll be running for governor. But what does his hair look like? Ooops. This pic makes me laugh. Doesn't Perry look like he's hammered and trying to tell his Old Buddy, Best Buddy some joke? About his sister?

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4 - humanbeing   17 Nov 2010 @ 7:18:49 PM 

Perry's just another phoney, too.

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5 - silenceisgolden   18 Nov 2010 @ 9:02:30 AM 

So what is the big deal here. I'm not understanding if you are for it or against it.  I would prefer that any child have the right to pray in school if he/she wants to.  Do you not remember when you were in school that we could pray if we wanted.  Hell what makes it ok for someone to be able to study the Bible in college as history, ethics, etc.  Do people not realize that the Christian Faith has to do with the Bible.  Do any of you not believe that a MAN would lay down his life for the sins of others.  It's no difference than in todays World.  You have people that want to go out and help our fellow man instead of wanting to kill them off.  Then you have those others that want to say LOOK AT ME  I donated  millions of dollars to these people or go and adopt children from other countries.  We all need to look at our problems at home before we go out and try to fix the worlds'.  Do the politicians and the rich n famous not realize that there are children and people less fortunate right here in their own back yard.  I have heard people talk about why don't they use birth control.  Well in some countries they don't believe in that due to their FAITH, RELIGION or CUSTOMS.  

I realize that I have gotten off the subject at hand but the point is.  It's our GOD given right to put up the Ten Commandments if we want to.  That's why it is called FREEDOM of religion.

And as far as the picture of perry winkle he is a phony and he looks like he's 3 sheets in the wind.  What a way to represent Mr. Perry Winkle. 

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6 - humanbeing   18 Nov 2010 @ 10:01:09 AM 

So, Silence, what rights do other religions have in public classrooms?

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7 - silenceisgolden   18 Nov 2010 @ 12:38:55 PM 

@human- I feel that anyone no matter what religion should have that right.  Isn't that what our Country was founded on?  

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8 - humanbeing   18 Nov 2010 @ 4:14:57 PM 

Our country's Constitution provides freedom of religion, or to have no religion, by requiring separation of church and state. Mr. Flynn's proposed law is an attempt to breach the Constitution on this matter.

What our founding fathers were concerned about was the possibility of state-mandated religion and the persecution and loss of individual freedoms because of it.

Publicly funded schools have children of many religions or of no religion, not just Christians. Americans have freedom to practice their beliefs and to teach these to their children, but not in public schools.

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9 - salon   18 Nov 2010 @ 5:28:34 PM 

@silenceisgolden. There are 2 Supreme Court cases which set precedence for the issues you raise above. Anyone can pray in school; what cannot be done is to have school-sponsored prayer, leading others, including school children in prayer. But if someone wants to pray before a test or before a meal, etc, that person can. (There was a Santa Fe, TX case about that some 10 years ago). And, as mentioned above, the Supreme Court has already ruled about posting of 10 commandments in school as being primarly religious in nature and thus violating the constitution as being against establishment of religion.

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