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*Visual* Inspection Rather Than Written Reports for Oakdale Park? (Glen Rose)

11 August 2010 at 3:32:21 PM

I'll write some more about this later, but right now I'm sort of scratching my head wondering why.

I asked to see inspection reports and/or code enforcement documents since January of this year for Oakdale Park. The city has done so much work that I figured they must have some paperwork about it, perhaps each time a step was finished or a checklist showing whether critical areas were done and passed safety or other regulations. The reply I got was this, from the city secretary.

I checked with Darrell and there are no written inspections for the work at Oakdale. Any inspections were done the same way all inspections are done by visual inspection.

Two things about this. One is that there is apparently no paper trail to show whether or how Oakdale Park has passed, atlhough there might be a permit that has been issued. The second is that it appears that no inspections have paper documentation?

If this is so, and it seems to me that other large cities do require documentation and sign-offs for compliance, then how does anyone know if Oakdale meets spec, including safety? How would they prove it on a specific level? It surely can't be up to just one person who may or may not be at work and is the one that visually inspected something. Right? When I initially asked about this, I was asked to wait until Mr Webb came back from a sick leave- I decided to ask anyway without waiting because it seemed to me that the city ought to have someone there who would be familiar with the documents and not just sort of grind to a halt because the work revolved around one person. Right? If Mr Webb was to quit tomorrow, where would the documentation be about all the visual inspections he did if there really is no paperwork?

Maybe there is more to this than I think, or some other explanation. But right now I don't get it.

UPDATE I was just told re: what ultimate certification one gets....

it is called a certificate of occupation and Oakdale does not have one until all renovations are complete.

Um. Wouldn't this mean that the grounds could not be OCCUPIED until the certificate has been approved and all renovations complete?

UPDATE #2-second post about this here, including a video compile that includes looking at the fixtures in Oakdale back in January 2010

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1 - Craig Dodson   11 Aug 2010 @ 3:40:12 PM 

The City should follow its set of rules as everyone else has to follow.  This includes permits and inspections.  This gives written documenetation that properties are in compliance with city code.  Without this documentation who knows if the property is in compliance or out of compliance.  The City would not allow me or anyone else to build or remodel in the city limits without a permit or inspection.

2 - salon   11 Aug 2010 @ 3:48:47 PM 

@Craig-you're of the same mind as I am. If I were to say that I wanted to open a restaurant, for example (I AM NOT GOING TO-heh), I am sure I would have to show that I had done certain things, maybe had a certain type of stove, fire extinguishers, vents, two exits, an electrician's inspection, etc. If I am to believe what was said above, the city would come and look at my info and visually see if I had done it and then issue me some kind of permit or certificate.. but without a paper trail to say that the inspector had signed off that everything was kosher? And I'm not saying that any code inspector is crooked.; however a paper trail takes inspections out of the realm of *good ole boy-ville* into a professional set of checklists that anyone can see and follow, and any new inspector would be able to confirm. 

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3 - Craig Dodson   11 Aug 2010 @ 4:05:44 PM 

What if something did happen with Darrell and he was no long employed with the city (almost happened) and another inspector came in, he would not know what has been inspected or not inspected.  He would not know if things are in compliance or out of compliance.  The inspector has a set of rules to follow (code enforcement) but if they are not going to use them then why have them.  We have them to protect ourselves from liability issues.  If something happens to a customer at Oakdale and they get sued, this issue of no permits and no inspections could be a huge liability issue.  If work was performed in electrical, HVAC and/or plumbing by a non-licensed professional, that is a violation through the State of Texas.  The city would not allow me to perform these items without a licensed professional.  This is another reason we have permits and inspections to document the people who worked on these items in case there is a liability issue that comes about.

4 - Craig Dodson   11 Aug 2010 @ 4:08:18 PM 

Check your video/audio log, Johnny Martin stated in an open meeting that the City should follow the same rules as everyone else has to follow.  They were discussing the Preservation Board/Historical Society being involved at Oakdale.

5 - anon   11 Aug 2010 @ 8:54:13 PM  Doesnt the citizens of Glen Rose have the right to go look at these cabins that have been remodeled after all it is a city park and as a taxpayer do we not have that right? I have been there in the office and pool/ snack bar area,I have not seen a fire extinguisher in any of these areas, Has the health department done a inspection,shouldnt that be a requirment? Have you seen the backboard they have, broken handles, straps. Lets hope it is never needed. Does any one of there employees have a food handlers certificate? Did the city not inspect Oakdale before they purchased it? I believe if they had they would have run the other way.......  









6 - salon   12 Aug 2010 @ 11:59:51 AM 

You also raise great questions, yes, it's a city park and you can go there,... with your camera! If you do and take pics, send 'em on and we'll put them up here.

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