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Why Is Billy Huckaby of the CVB Approaching Jimmy Gosdin Rather Than Putting Work Out for Bids?
 

I have been reading the CVB Report for May 2010 (the first one).  This paragraph in particular.

I did talk to Bud Surles after the last city council meeting and he said he misspoke when he threw out the Million Dollar figure. He did say that city and county labor could greatly reduce the cost. I gave Jimmy Gosdin the plans and he said a worst case scenario would be $600,000, if we had a contract do all of the work. He though realistically it could be brought in for $300,000 to $400,000.

Why is this sort of back-door planning being done instead of putting the work out for bids? Shouldn't it rather be that a request for bids is put in the paper and the people who are wanting the job have to bid on it through a specific process?  I realize that such items are professional services are exempt from the process, but surely putting in concrete pads doesn't fall into that category. If someone reading this knows differently, please comment and cite the legal sources.

P.S. I'm very willing to be educated and to be shown wrong, if it is a perfectly acceptable practice to approach contractors, show them the plans and work out informational deals outside of a formal process.

Update: One more point of pondering. In the Glen Rose Reporter newspaper of July 7, 2010, there's a published bid notice for street improvements. I believe this is the same bid that has gone in repeatedly that has been flawed and appears to be correct this week. There's a notice at the bottom of the bid that says that for those who wants to get copies of the contract documents, they must pay $60.00 (non-refundable) for each set. That's the procedure that ensures that every person that wants to do a bid is following the same process, presumably making money for the city, and being fair. So why did Huckaby GIVE the plans to Gosdin, not just a potential bidder on the project, but no doubt definitely a bidder. Let's say that the request for proposal goes into the paper-will the plans be offered for free to ALL potential bidders since Gosdin got it for free? If you're going to do it for one company, you must do it for all. Another way of putting this: the process of getting contractors or businesses to do work is specific, and is done certain ways following certain procedures. Going to someone and bringing plans seems more than inappropriate, and seems like it would be showing favoritism to one company over another. There may only be one bidder or one entity that responds to a request for proposal, or there may be 50, but one cannot know that until it has gone into the paper publicly soliciting entries, which may also involve a cost for plans.

UPDATE: Huckaby at the City of Glen Rose Retreat

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Last Comment by salon- Maybe I"m mistaken but I thought the whole point of a business like environment in government is the RFP process. If the cost of doing X or Y .... 22 Jul 2010 | 09:06



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1 - humanbeing   6 Jul 2010 @ 19:02

One could 'assume' if the city decided on the project that it would put it out for bids. It sounds like Huckabee is just exploring the possibilities. Personally, I think the big RV pad plan is not a good idea, economically or any other way. Misspoke? This is what the city paid $10,000 plus expenses for? This is what happens when the original planning is not done properly: wasting money.

2 - salon   22 Jul 2010 @ 09:06

Maybe I"m mistaken but I thought the whole point of a business like environment in government is the RFP process. If the cost of doing X or Y is too much, then nothing obligates the government entity to do it. Asking people outside a process is not fair.  For example...

Sec. 252.042.  REQUESTS FOR PROPOSALS FOR CERTAIN PROCUREMENTS.  (a)  Requests for proposals made under Section 252.021 must solicit quotations and must specify the relative importance of price and other evaluation factors.

(b)  Discussions in accordance with the terms of a request for proposals and with regulations adopted by the governing body of the municipality may be conducted with offerors who submit proposals and who are determined to be reasonably qualified for the award of the contract. Offerors shall be treated fairly and equally with respect to any opportunity for discussion and revision of proposals. To obtain the best final offers, revisions may be permitted after submissions and before the award of the contract.

 

Acts 1987, 70th Leg., ch. 149, Sec. 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1987. Amended by Acts 1989, 71st Leg., ch. 1, Sec. 56(c), eff. Aug. 28, 1989; Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 45, Sec. 2, eff. May 5, 1995.

To me, it's this way. Bud Surles did the plan and told all of us that it would cost a million bucks to do the concrete pads. Ooops. Billy Huckaby didn't like that number being thrown out, so he approached one of his buds, gave him a copy of the plan and asked him what it would cost. Seems to me that is against the spirit of the law, above, which says that the offerers shall be ..

treated fairly and equally with respect to any opportunity for discussion and revision of proposals.

Can't do that if you go to one guy instead of a formal, open process.


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